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PleasureBonBon Forum -> PleasureBonBon.com Discussions ~ Is fur colour heriditary in PBB? |
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:05 pm
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I've been wondering about this lately. Is the colour of someone's fur, based on the fur colour of his/her parents? Just like eye or hair colour, or how it is in animals in the real world?
We haven't seen much that might answer that question. Red and his father have the same fur colour. Mary is a lighter shade of blue that Simon, though. If her fur is the mix of what her parents' fur colours are, does that mean that Mary's mother is either white or light blue? |
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:27 pm
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Probably...but then again most animals of the same species, and the same subspecies carry the same fur color. |
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:32 pm
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:17 pm
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Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:19 am
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Kiala_Tiagra wrote: |
hmm.... could be like....
let's say red and mary has a kid
whats the color result of red + blue?
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Blood Gulch
Nahh is purple. But a purple cat...actually that's not how genetics work. It depends on which gene is dominant. If Mary and Red have a kit the fur color will come close to red, but a more light looking red, than Red red's. |
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Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:24 am
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((To Pride:
You mean Blue vs. Red. It sounds dumb when you say it backwards ^_^
To Symphony:
That's a pretty intriguing idea. I would venture that fur color is hereditary; however, as with everything else, you could get those weird off-shoots that occasionally happen. So a pair of white-furred sheep could have a black-sheep lamb.
Something to think about, most fur color is actually a blend. The tip of the fur/hair is one color, while the body of the fur/hair is a different color. For example, common mice are a "brown", but "brown"-mice fur isn't fully brown. It's like a blend of brown, red, black and yellow. This is mostly due to incomplete dominance in fur pigmentation. OH! An interesting illustration of this would be a black-hooded mouse, where the black pigment is over-produced in the head area, making the mouse look like it has a "hood" on. Anyway, that's a pretty neat question, Symphony. )) |
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Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:07 am
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It's an interesting idea, but I'd actually like to think fur color can be a little more independent. This has less to do with any form of scientific basis so much as from a customization point-of-view. There are already rules in place as to species restrictions for fursonas, and unique color schemes being so "rare" wouldn't be a valid argument considering how many of them we would see in Bon Bon.
Traditionally, I would agree that the fur color should be more genetically inherited, but when it comes to the custom fursona, I can't in good conscious want to take that stance, as it would feel like some kind of further restriction and stifle creativity in the creation of a fursona. |
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Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:45 pm
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red and blue = purple kiala witch would be a weird color for a feline as for my thoughts
i never really consired this kinda like my fursona despite the fact my fursona has sopts and then the three black stripes going down his back his mother and farther where both cheetahs
it is acutly in fact a rear gebntic mutaion in his DNA that resulted in him being born a king cheetah witxh are very very rear
a long time back when fur of this species was discoverd scintes first belived it was a hybrid mix of a cheetah and leopard but was proved wrong |
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Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:24 pm
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I don't think it needs to be restrictive when creating fursonas. People usually don't talk about how their fursona's parents look like.
I just find it interesting to speculate on. Kind of a special furry aspect, just like how different species can't produce offspring, how females can only become pregnant when in heat and so on. |
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Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:37 pm
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Actually Caroline, I know it as Red vs Blue too.
As far as fur color and bloodline, I had Labrn and Mystic's colors reversed from their parents. The father being black fur, the mother being white fur. A nod toward darwin I believe. |
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Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:58 pm
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((LabrnMystic,
Well... apparently then you aren't a big fan of Caboose. Who, other than one time, refers to the conflict as "Blue vs. Red." In addition, he even scolds Agent Washington about the mistake... so... um... yeah. Me and my lameness.
Anyway, back on topic, for me, while I can see the pull/allure of alternative colors... they also can be annoyingly distracting. To me, it... takes a careful balance to use non-realistic colors on humanoid-animals without making them look eye-wincingly cringe-inducing. If that makes any sense.
To use Shadow_Twisted as an example. I do like the red-black color combination normally, being a goth we kinda half too, otherwise our goth-card gets revoked... however, for me, it just doesn't seem to translate well into a fur color. Whereas, the milk-chocolate-brown color of Constance Mayflower I like very much. So... *shrug* some unusual colors, while potentially making the character unique, can also be off-putting to me.)) |
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Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:25 am
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Caroline wrote: |
((LabrnMystic,
Well... apparently then you aren't a big fan of Caboose. Who, other than one time, refers to the conflict as "Blue vs. Red." In addition, he even scolds Agent Washington about the mistake... so... um... yeah. Me and my lameness.
Anyway, back on topic, for me, while I can see the pull/allure of alternative colors... they also can be annoyingly distracting. To me, it... takes a careful balance to use non-realistic colors on humanoid-animals without making them look eye-wincingly cringe-inducing. If that makes any sense.
To use Shadow_Twisted as an example. I do like the red-black color combination normally, being a goth we kinda half too, otherwise our goth-card gets revoked... however, for me, it just doesn't seem to translate well into a fur color. Whereas, the milk-chocolate-brown color of Constance Mayflower I like very much. So... *shrug* some unusual colors, while potentially making the character unique, can also be off-putting to me.))
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caboose! omg i love him so much, he always made me laugh :'3 |
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Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:53 pm
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Afraid not. Never saw all of it. I mainly recall the Puma discussion.. |
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Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:01 pm
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Haven't really thought about fur color, even though Arcanus's parents, brother, and grandparents are in the story. They would probably be different shades of blue, the only reason Arcanus is blue and black is because he got badly burned. But that is a very good question Symphony.  |
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Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:19 am
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((Labrn,
Do you mean the Warthog, or are you just making up animals again?
^_^ )) |
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Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:12 pm
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Caroline wrote: |
((Labrn,
Do you mean the Warthog, or are you just making up animals again?
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A walrus.
Didn't I just tell you to stop making up animals? |
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Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:53 pm
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Caroline wrote: |
Whereas, the milk-chocolate-brown color of Constance Mayflower I like very much.
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Thank you. I also really like them. And yours as well.
I think that the possibilites in different fur colours is very interesting. It gives such great possibilities for characters to be much more visually distinctive.
There are also ssome thoughts and ides I like to ponder. Like if some colours are dominant, or if certain patterns can be inherited.
It's really not just the colour of the fur that I find interesting. There's also the length and feel of it. I think that there are many things that could possibly be affected by the fur of a character, ranging from social standing, to everyday issues, and even to sexual situations. |
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Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:55 pm
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The term "hair/fur standing on end" comes to mind with that Symphony.
And besides color, length and pattern too. |
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