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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:34 pm  Reply with quote
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It's just a colour variant of a large cat. You can have Black Panther Cougars, Black Panther Leopards, etc. But there's no such big cat simply referred to as a Black Panther. I bring this up because of a show I've been watching that is quite interesting.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:07 pm  Reply with quote
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Who ever said it was?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:40 pm  Reply with quote
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What show is this?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:56 am  Reply with quote
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Silvador wrote:
Who ever said it was?


I always assumed it was, and noticed people saying they had a Black
Panther character and now with a plethora of new information I am wondering as to what species of big cat they actually are. Considering that Panther is a term that can mean Lion, Tiger, Cheetah, but I think probably a Jaguar. I also found out that Lobsters can theoretically live forever but that is not as interesting for this forum me thinks.
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What show is this?


QI. I love Stephen Fry so much!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:28 am  Reply with quote
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Space Cats wrote:
Silvador wrote:
Who ever said it was?


I always assumed it was, and noticed people saying they had a Black
Panther character and now with a plethora of new information I am wondering as to what species of big cat they actually are. Considering that Panther is a term that can mean Lion, Tiger, Cheetah, but I think probably a Jaguar. I also found out that Lobsters can theoretically live forever but that is not as interesting for this forum me thinks.
Well, let me clear it up for you with a couple of visual examples...






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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:00 am  Reply with quote
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I can't see some of them unfortunately, but what species of big cat are each of them? The middle and last are Jaguars I think, not sure about the second from the top. It might also be a jaguar.


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*F***** Double Post!!*

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Space Cats wrote:
I can't see some of them unfortunately, but what species of big cat are each of them?
Does it matter? They're big, black cats. Short of spots, what's the blasted difference?

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Apparently they're jaguars in Latin America and in Asia and Africa they're Leopards. It's really just Melanism, like Albinism only on the opposite of the spectrum. There are wolves with the same thing and squirrels too, which sounds pretty cute to me. I think it goes something like Black Panther Jaguar or White Panther Leopard, or simply a Panther Cougar if it is of a normal colour, considering Panther is just a big cat. You could also just say Melanistic Jaguar and Albino Leopard without the panther. So Black Panther just says "black color variant of a big cat" without distinguishing it's actual species.

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Well please, tell me the difference because I don't think I can fathom going on another day without being able to accurately describe what specific species my ficticious anthropomorphic representation of myself on the internet is.

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STOP TRYING TO CRUSH MY DREAMS, SIR!




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Actually, I did a little googling, and there is no such thing as a straight up panther. *shrugs* A certain big cat is considered a panther in some places but not in others. In Africa and Asia, leopards are also called panthers. In South and Central America, it's the jaguar. In North America it's the cougar/mountain lion. So where I am, my character could be considered a panther.

And Wolfbane, lol.

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I guess the people who study big cats would look for features other than their coats, Jaguars would have a larger build than a Leopard and also have rounder heads and shorter legs than them and stuff like that.

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Mayfield wrote:
Actually, I did a little googling, and there is no such thing as a straight up panther. *shrugs* A certain big cat is considered a panther in some places but not in others. In Africa and Asia, leopards are also called panthers. In South and Central America, it's the jaguar. In North America it's the cougar/mountain lion. So where I am, my character could be considered a panther.

And Wolfbane, lol.


The phrase probably originated from the Panthera genus of big cat which refers to lions, tigers, leopards and jaguars. Panther is somewhat informal.

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That's what I was thinking Spacey. Would a Puma fall into something like this since there not a species of cat??

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Artyom Derison wrote:
That's what I was thinking Spacey. Would a Puma fall into something like this since there not a species of cat??
Puma is actually just another term used for mountain lions and some jaguars.

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I think Puma is a genus as well that refers to cougars and other old world wild cats.

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There is such a thing as a Black Cougar. I know because I have seen 'Desperate House wives'.

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Tearlach wrote:
There is such a thing as a Black Cougar. I know because I have seen 'Desperate House wives'.


Win.

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I found a picture of a very rare black and white panther.

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Tearlach wrote:
I found a picture of a very rare black and white panther.



German engineering at its best.

Isn't that a King Tiger??

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[quote="Space Cats"]It's really just Melanism, like Albinism only on the opposite of the spectrum. There are wolves with the same thing and squirrels too, which sounds pretty cute to me.[quote]

I've seen black squirrels before in the northwestern part of central Pennsylvania, so perhaps they had this melanism.
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Artyom Derison wrote:

German engineering at its best.
Isn't that a King Tiger??


Very similar, its a late variant Panther D. The King Tiger was slightly bigger with a longer turret.

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[quote="Shadow_Twisted"][quote="Space Cats"]It's really just Melanism, like Albinism only on the opposite of the spectrum. There are wolves with the same thing and squirrels too, which sounds pretty cute to me.
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I've seen black squirrels before in the northwestern part of central Pennsylvania, so perhaps they had this melanism.


Very likely. For some reason melanism is passed on more frequently then its albino counterpart. The fact that a pure white animal stands out more and would be more prone to attack is probably a major contributing factor.

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umm not to go off topic or anything, but why is the quote thing screwed up??

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Tearlach wrote:
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German engineering at its best.
Isn't that a King Tiger??


Very similar, its a late variant Panther D. The King Tiger was slightly bigger with a longer turret.


Oh okay I always got those two mixed up.

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Arcanus wrote:
umm not to go off topic or anything, but why is the quote thing screwed up??

Shit happens. *Shrugs*

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So fur is mostly based on environment, weather, and season in short.

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there is no Black Panther :O wow im shocked.

Wait...is there a Pink Panther?

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