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Rune174
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Same here. Since it can help in any way possible.

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But printing the comic is actually less wise on cutting the cost.

You have to deal with shipping charges

and you have to deal with Misc costs. Like ink.


Not to mention it doesn't stop people from scanning it, and posting it on a website.

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True, not to mention people scanning the pages and redistributing it for their own profit.

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I think the best way to make it is when they create the game, they make a section solely for the comic, as an in game update so to speak. Where you get the pages in the game.

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Unfortunately, no matter what path is taken, there is always going to be the risk of piracy. In such a business like Vanessa is in, it's not a matter of whether or not your product can be pirated or not, but how much it will get pirated. Vanessa has a great comic, hands down. The subscription fee isn't unreasonable. Unfortunately, we currently reside in a time where 8-9 out of 10 people just don't appreciate the hardwork artists put into their creations and just want "MOAR! MOAR! MOAR!" and expect it to just be handed to them for free. It shames me to think that I am part of a generation who has next to no concept of proper appreciation for those who deserve and have earned it. Whether the matter in question is adult oriented artwork, music, movies or otherwise, people just don't give a fuck and prefer to sit at home saying "Thanks for the show, give me more."

While I understand a lot of people cannot afford to subscribe to the site for extended periods due to the absolutely shite economy of this entire planet, I also see no reason why many of those same people cannot subscribe just once or twice a year. The prices are not unaffordable. Set aside a couple of dollars here, a couple there; it builds up fast enough. The comic updates at a pace where it isn't even neccessary to have a permanent subscription. Joining for just a month, two or three times a year, will not cause you to miss out on anything. If everyone who wanted to read the comic did this, Vanessa wouldn't need to search for ways to prevent piracy altogether. A thousand people paying a dollar each is better than one person paying a thousand dollars. This is something that most people these days don't realise because they are too busy thinking with the fucking dick than their brain. It really is mind numbing to think how stupid people are.

But no. The "internet based community" don't give two flying flips about the people who put loads and loads of effort into creating and presenting them with such fine pieces of artwork. They just want to sit around, bitch slap each other verbally, and take whatever the fuck they want for free.

It's so sad that such beautiful artwork can be created today and those who create it get thanked for absolutely nothing.

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When my brother Aaron_Thom told me that PBB may publish its own MMORPG, I said "Now THAT product has my attention." I mean, I spend my time on the PBB role playing forum because that's what I really like to do. I have an emotional investment with the players and Royal Members here. I have to admit, when A_T let me have a peek at all the artwork and features he has access to I got turned on by it all. It's an incredible collaboration, but oh if only it were like an MMORPG. I'd pay for that.

Wishes do come true, then. The Pleasure Bon Bon mmorpg will be the first online game I sign up for with a paid subscription. This has my total interest, and I am going to help make it happen.

A curse on the pirates.

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Maybe a mission where you board a pirate ship and sabotage they're booty

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Pride wrote:
Maybe a mission where you board a pirate ship and sabotage they're booty


Sounds like Vixine.

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Rune174 wrote:
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Maybe a mission where you board a pirate ship and sabotage they're booty


Sounds like Vixine.



Pirates Bon Bon Style lol

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Yeah just look at all the threads on Paws and u18 and just see how ungrateful and demanding they get.
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Like Caroline, I've been with you since the Vixine days, and I'll stick with this ship til its run its coarse. I know I don't stop by often enough (the forums at least) but I try to alert a share site when I see it.

I'll check with you, Ronald or vanessa, over quality, but I'll try to submit more fanart and/or commissions in the future to help and advertise Bonbon.

And I know folks feel its dead and gone, but I've got the PBB card game info I've salvaged. I still very much plan to make that a reality! I've gotten materials for making the beta set, and will start or redo the thread for it. I shall help breathe new life into this site, God willing!


Question on what we can do, as members, to help with the Online Game. Scripts for characters or stories for side characters? Even helping proofread or edit. I wish to do more for this site!

Til next time, take care you three (that means you too Marco) and God bless.

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Leaf wrote:
And I am also excited to hear about the new MMORPG that is being in the works! I wonder what it will be like...


Well. First start, we hope to make it beautiful. And it will have a game world view.

It will be isometric view, sort of like "Bastion" style view and other old school Final Fantasy like. Almost like Gaia.

The Town of Bon Bon will be designed by Vanessa with help from Marco. So all the buildings and streets will be populated with main characters and side characters.

Each of the various characters in the town will provide Quests. So you will get some nice artwork of each character when they give you quests. The game will have energy that you gain over time with a cap limit. You do various things like explore the world/town. You can go into interiors of some of the main buildings. Such as the Castle Delight and different rooms (as we make them available).

The Quests will be different types. Gathering and collecting stuff. Some may require some thought like puzzles. Think of it like some old school Leisure Larry, and "Quests" series (Kings quest, Quest for Glory etc).

We're still pondering over if it will make sense to have some combat. Since this is furry, not sure how we'll do that. It's not a "kill" thing but more like "banish" or "beatup". Not sure how people feel about "beasties" in the game. Those that are none humans.

We want people to be able to interact with each other through playing the "casino" games with each other. And "chatting" with each other by visiting each other's rooms. Like Habbo.

We won't be doing a full multiplayer roam around style. When you explore the game world, it won't have other players running around exploring. They'll be present but they won't be live directly interacting with each other. Only in each others rooms will we might have this.

Yes, everybody will get some sort of player housing (rooms) to decorate and visit each other. The idea for this is to allow folks to do "RolePlay" with each other. We might provide other tools as well to help with role playing in the rooms. So players can buy additional rooms/housing if they want to do different themes and decorations.

Most of this will be very graphic and visual. We're going to start the foundation and build on it little by little starting with possibly just the casino area first. The walking around animation might not be immediately added but we do want a functional game that let's you play with the casino characters and feel like you are in a world/town. The quests will go along with the dating sims as well.


That sounds pretty cool. I'll support this site anyway I can and like a few said, I've started on Vixine and followed you here from the start.
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LabrnMystic wrote:
Question on what we can do, as members, to help with the Online Game. Scripts for characters or stories for side characters? Even helping proofread or edit. I wish to do more for this site!
Til next time, take care you three (that means you too Marco) and God bless.[/color]


I think if fans can help with some quest chain ideas that might be helpful.

As we reveal more of the game. We would love to hear from fans on what they would like to see as "Quests" or submit detailed Quests.

Basically, the game will have characters offer quests. Some characters are hot females, that if you please them enough you can win their affections doing their quests. Its very much like a Dating Sims game where the girls won't talk to you unless you are "strong enough" or "have enough charm" or "enough intellience". But all that can be easily translated to doing things for them, since its the same thing you have to burn energy clicking on stupid things to build up your stats. It can be easily be go out and bring back 50 chopped wood or move 50 piles of rock. So like those dating games that might have normally translated to +50 strength.

We want this game to be an on going like dating sims so leveling up stats really is not want we want. We will still have a "Level" bar for your experience level. But the invidual stats we dont want to level as they will get super inflated and leaves very little room for expansions and add ons or additional girls to win over.

So by doing Quests for the different girls, it achieves the same effect: "Time sync". So instead of resetting your stats bar for each girl you are trying to go after. We can now make it so you can go after a dozen girls at the same time if you wanted to or do each one separately, or every time we add new characters/girls we don't run into any balance issues, where your character is already "over powered" for the new girls.

We'll certainly need help with a few character quest ideas. We may possibly have some existing royal avatars appear in the game that will offer quests. (the only thing weird will be the actual royal player playing a game with their own character giving them quests.) Or we may simply have it so you dont get to do that quest or replace that character with a different version of the character. "Evil twin?"

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I can't wait for this, I'll try to help out as much as I can.

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I guess you don't quite understand the idea of "Patch together" Roland. Smile It's their problem to sell it and post it, after the design is made into real life toy. But like i said, the design needs enough rates on PT page to go further into production. That's why comics often asked members if they would be interested in buying such a toy, making polls about which character should be proposed, and then asked to vote on PT page to get the highest rating on pre-order. So the only cost from the side of the creator is the nerves about it beeing successfull or not Smile

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Q: Who sets the price for the toy ON DEMAND?
A: PATCH TOGETHER sets the price according to the figure's size, complexity and production costs.

Q: What do I earn for my design?
A: For ON DEMAND products, the profit will be split 30% for artist and 70% for PATCH TOGETHER.

Q: Do I give my rights away for the design?
A: The design right will remain with the artist. However, in order for the design to go into production, the artist must agree to an exclusive one year toy contract with PatchTogether.

Q: Does the one year contract cover just the submitted characters in their submitted poses or would it cover any and all characters submitted to Patch Together as well as any that weren't?
A: The exclusive one year contract covers only the character in their submitted pose.

Q: Do I receive free samples of my toys?
A: Depending on the final cost of the toy, we may have some samples. If not, you can exchange some of the 30% profit for toys.

Q: Is PATCH TOGETHER promoting my design besides here?
A: We are constantly seeking ways to help promote our member's work but at the same time we need help from the PT community. We encourage all artists to promote their ON DEMAND toy designs with magazines, blogs and forums so we can reach the pre-order minimum to start production.

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OMG OMG OMG Very Happy

Can't wait to start reading Dillinger

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Simeone Derringer looks an awful lot like Simon Blue from the PBB series. I'm sure thats no coincidence though.

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Ronald wrote:
LabrnMystic wrote:
Question on what we can do, as members, to help with the Online Game. Scripts for characters or stories for side characters? Even helping proofread or edit. I wish to do more for this site!
Til next time, take care you three (that means you too Marco) and God bless.[/color]


I think if fans can help with some quest chain ideas that might be helpful.

As we reveal more of the game. We would love to hear from fans on what they would like to see as "Quests" or submit detailed Quests.

Basically, the game will have characters offer quests. Some characters are hot females, that if you please them enough you can win their affections doing their quests. Its very much like a Dating Sims game where the girls won't talk to you unless you are "strong enough" or "have enough charm" or "enough intellience". But all that can be easily translated to doing things for them, since its the same thing you have to burn energy clicking on stupid things to build up your stats. It can be easily be go out and bring back 50 chopped wood or move 50 piles of rock. So like those dating games that might have normally translated to +50 strength.

We want this game to be an on going like dating sims so leveling up stats really is not want we want. We will still have a "Level" bar for your experience level. But the invidual stats we dont want to level as they will get super inflated and leaves very little room for expansions and add ons or additional girls to win over.

So by doing Quests for the different girls, it achieves the same effect: "Time sync". So instead of resetting your stats bar for each girl you are trying to go after. We can now make it so you can go after a dozen girls at the same time if you wanted to or do each one separately, or every time we add new characters/girls we don't run into any balance issues, where your character is already "over powered" for the new girls.

We'll certainly need help with a few character quest ideas. We may possibly have some existing royal avatars appear in the game that will offer quests. (the only thing weird will be the actual royal player playing a game with their own character giving them quests.) Or we may simply have it so you dont get to do that quest or replace that character with a different version of the character. "Evil twin?"


I'm willing to help as much as I can.

Evil twin/clone? We're going there already?
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UltimaWolf0 wrote:
Ronald wrote:
LabrnMystic wrote:
Question on what we can do, as members, to help with the Online Game. Scripts for characters or stories for side characters? Even helping proofread or edit. I wish to do more for this site!
Til next time, take care you three (that means you too Marco) and God bless.[/color]


I think if fans can help with some quest chain ideas that might be helpful.

As we reveal more of the game. We would love to hear from fans on what they would like to see as "Quests" or submit detailed Quests.

Basically, the game will have characters offer quests. Some characters are hot females, that if you please them enough you can win their affections doing their quests. Its very much like a Dating Sims game where the girls won't talk to you unless you are "strong enough" or "have enough charm" or "enough intellience". But all that can be easily translated to doing things for them, since its the same thing you have to burn energy clicking on stupid things to build up your stats. It can be easily be go out and bring back 50 chopped wood or move 50 piles of rock. So like those dating games that might have normally translated to +50 strength.

We want this game to be an on going like dating sims so leveling up stats really is not want we want. We will still have a "Level" bar for your experience level. But the invidual stats we dont want to level as they will get super inflated and leaves very little room for expansions and add ons or additional girls to win over.

So by doing Quests for the different girls, it achieves the same effect: "Time sync". So instead of resetting your stats bar for each girl you are trying to go after. We can now make it so you can go after a dozen girls at the same time if you wanted to or do each one separately, or every time we add new characters/girls we don't run into any balance issues, where your character is already "over powered" for the new girls.

We'll certainly need help with a few character quest ideas. We may possibly have some existing royal avatars appear in the game that will offer quests. (the only thing weird will be the actual royal player playing a game with their own character giving them quests.) Or we may simply have it so you dont get to do that quest or replace that character with a different version of the character. "Evil twin?"


I'm willing to help as much as I can.

Evil twin/clone? We're going there already?


It would make sense, to a point. After all, it'd be odd if there were clothes for sale at my shop and I have to buy them from myself. Time paradox, universe imploding, none of which makes for good business.
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You get this quest from Betty, you need to forward a letter from her to Mary without getting caught. When business is taken care of you return to Betty. She tells you that Mary may reply soon, and to return there as soon as you can. You grab Mary's Reply to Betty and return it. When Betty reads it she finds out that Simon Blue has discovered their spot for letters and discovers you. She tells you that she needs you to get into that mansion somehow and find a new place for them to forward letters. So you have to disquise yourself as the cook Jeff Actarus, the head chef of the Delight Castle (by stealing his clothes from his room) and convince Simon that you must enter to do cooking business or something of that nature. When you have gained access to the manison, you have to continue with trying to find a certain spot where they can exchange letters, preferably in the garden or around the outside wall. I think if you should ask Mary, she can give you some hints, but after the second or third time of asking her, Simon will catch you and send Mary upstairs where you can no longer speak with her. After you finally find the spot, you tell Simon you have done what is needed and leave. You return to Betty, tell her where the new spot is, and you earn some respect from her, but she knows to not trust you on anymore "delieveries" unless you prove yourself to her... (this could be an opening to another quest given by her)

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if this comic is only available in printed media i dont think i can get one. indonesia has a verrry strict rule of no weird comics

even if the comic has no porn heh

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Its converted to digital Kiala, there is a section on the sidebar for it ^^

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Strange how certain laws are in some countries but not in others.

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Kiala_Tiagra wrote:
if this comic is only available in printed media i dont think i can get one. indonesia has a verrry strict rule of no weird comics

even if the comic has no porn heh



I wonder

What made them come out with that one?

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Weird people think of weird things.

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