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Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:40 pm
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| Chaosengine wrote: |
So now I'm into the second week of recovery and things are getting weird.
My friends and family are treating me differently.
My friends still drink, as well as other things, and some of them have this idea of my new "sobriety" is just to be better than them...
How many ways do I have to explain myself?
My parents took it the way I expected.
They blamed themselves. Mom is especially bad.
"I'm a bad mother" she sez. I use to drink to avoid facing stuff like this, now I'm causing it...
They never mention this shit in 12 Steps. 
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no offence but maybe tell them to suck it up? |
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Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:01 pm
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| Chaosengine wrote: |
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My friends still drink, as well as other things, and some of them have this idea of my new "sobriety" is just to be better than them...
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Well, technically speaking you are... your liver is living witness of that 
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How many ways do I have to explain myself?
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Unless they want to listen, WAY too many. Some people just won't believe that others would do something they instead would NOT.
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My parents took it the way I expected.
They blamed themselves. Mom is especially bad.
"I'm a bad mother" she sez. I use to drink to avoid facing stuff like this, now I'm causing it...
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How about just telling her "Mom, if you were a bad mother I'd be getting WORSE, not better. Think about it."?
Hopefully reason and calm will get through her wall of guilty feelings.
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They never mention this shit in 12 Steps.
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Maybe because if they tried to tackle all the possible weird reactions one can get during the recovery period the whole process would take about twelve THOUSAND steps? |
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Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:08 pm
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You make much sense, my platy friend, I thank you.
*bows*
Come to think of it, this is our first conversation...
Howdy?  |
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Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:14 pm
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| Chaosengine wrote: |
You make much sense, my platy friend, I thank you.
*bows*
Come to think of it, this is our first conversation...
Howdy?
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Hi there! And yes, it is the first time that we address each other in person.
But then, I thought that this was too important a topic for me not to.
That's also why I left my clownish personality at the wardrobe |
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Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:16 pm
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I greatly appreciate the concern, especially considering your one of the "top folks" of the site.
I don't want my ineffectual problems to damage this place.
Too many good people here, I would never forgive myself if I caused harm... |
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Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:26 pm
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Chaos, buddy... Let's think about what you are, and are not, doing in this topic.
Are you flaming, trolling, being offensive to other people? No.
Are you spamming crap that bores the heck off everyone? Most definitely no.
Are you being insensitive of other people's feelings? Heck no.
You are, instead, opening yourself to others with your problems, and by doing so expressing trust in the above mentioned others.
Which, if I can say so, could be considered a nice thing to many.
You're being social.
And, if you ask me, that's the least disruptive or harmful thing one can do, usually.
Right? |
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Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:13 am
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| Thank you, Martin, you are a scolar and a gentleman. |
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Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:29 pm
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| Dam sar you are good. |
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Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:59 pm
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| Martin wrote: |
Hi there! And yes, it is the first time that we address each other in person.
But then, I thought that this was too important a topic for me not to.
That's also why I left my clownish personality at the wardrobe
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That's "furson". And I was wondering who left the clown suit and make-up in the coat check. |
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Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:43 am
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So I'm curious, as one of my Sgts (SFC rather) is a recovered alcoholic, and he didn't like to be near it or hear about it.
Can we still make occasional jokes, toasts, etc around you, or do we need to take care to keep things out of ear and eye sight until you feel you have had some time to get adjusted? |
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Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:07 am
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I've been tryin' to avoid it in RL, but here, since there's no visual component, you should be okay, Lbrn.
Thanks for askin' though, you're the first to mention it. |
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:37 am
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Okay, so the last couple of days have been rough. During my last session, Steve brought up the worst subject possible.
"Love".
I think he was just throwing out offhand subjects, so I don't blame him. The conversation that occured afterwards was nothing short of HUMILIATING!!
As a result, over the last few days I've been all needy and vulnerable and it's HORRIBLE!!
Everything that I've posted, and I mean EVERYTHING, has me terrified and full of doubt.
"Should I have typed that?" "Do I sound like a spinless nob?" "Are they gonna drive me out???"
Seriously, these feelings are messed up and I'm not handling them well. I have an urge to drink WORSE lately than when I first quit!
This is important, be honest. If I'm becoming too much and my behavior is wracking on your nerves... please, PLEASE tell me to shut up! Don't build up a wall of anger and annoyance and not tell me!! I can't judge these things, my senses are out of whack right now. |
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"One night in Bangkok and the world's your oyster.
The bars are temples, but the pearls ain't free...
You'll find a god in every golden cloister,
And if you're lucky then the god's a she..." |
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:47 am
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:51 am
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Relax sweetie. I have never noticed you being out of place. Or have you ever irritatited me.
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Thank You...
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The bars are temples, but the pearls ain't free...
You'll find a god in every golden cloister,
And if you're lucky then the god's a she..." |
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:45 am
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| Chaosengine wrote: |
As a result, over the last few days I've been all needy and vulnerable and it's HORRIBLE!!
Everything that I've posted, and I mean EVERYTHING, has me terrified and full of doubt.
"Should I have typed that?" "Do I sound like a spinless nob?" "Are they gonna drive me out???"
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Well, from first to last... "why not", "no" and "no".
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Seriously, these feelings are messed up and I'm not handling them well. I have an urge to drink WORSE lately than when I first quit!
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For a second I was tempted to say "You touch a single glass and I'm gonna track you down and make you regret that!" but that wouldn't be fair. Your choices are your choices, although some are healthier, better and overall more reasonable than others. You chose to stop drinking, and you did it by your will. Hold on to that will, Chaos. Remember, you're a reasonable, social person, and the stuff in the bottle is just a meaningless carbon/hydrogen/oxygen compound. Show it who's boss, ok?
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This is important, be honest. If I'm becoming too much and my behavior is wracking on your nerves... please, PLEASE tell me to shut up! Don't build up a wall of anger and annoyance and not tell me!! I can't judge these things, my senses are out of whack right now.
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Just so you know, Chaos... I'm not one to hold back things. If I think you're talking crap, I tell you so. And I don't.
Honestly, man, in the past I've met obnoxious, irritating, pain-in-the-ass people, and you don't even vaguely resemble them. For one, they did it for kicks, and for two they didn't even TRY to worry about inconveniencing others. As long as you care, I guess you're pretty much safe. If you start going bad, we'll tell you. Okay? |
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Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:54 pm
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Ya know Martin, it's really amazing. A few days ago, we didn't know each other from Bob. Suddenly you've become one of my biggest supporters. I think that alone is evidence that a lot can happen in a short amount of time.
That makes me feel a lot better.
Thank You, Friend.
*shakes the platy's hand emphatically* |
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"One night in Bangkok and the world's your oyster.
The bars are temples, but the pearls ain't free...
You'll find a god in every golden cloister,
And if you're lucky then the god's a she..." |
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:27 am
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Ya know Martin, it's really amazing. A few days ago, we didn't know each other from Bob. Suddenly you've become one of my biggest supporters. I think that alone is evidence that a lot can happen in a short amount of time.
That makes me feel a lot better.
Thank You, Friend.
*shakes the platy's hand emphatically*
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Chaos, I've seen WAY too many people royally fuck up for lack of support, and as far as I can see you deserve the support.
Therefore I feel that, if I can, I must provide support, because it's a good thing to a good guy.
Call it a weird quirk of an old man, if you like
Although I'm pretty sure that many others here agree with me... |
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:00 am
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Ya know Martin, it's really amazing. A few days ago, we didn't know each other from Bob. Suddenly you've become one of my biggest supporters. I think that alone is evidence that a lot can happen in a short amount of time.
That makes me feel a lot better.
Thank You, Friend.
*shakes the platy's hand emphatically*
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Chaos, I've seen WAY too many people royally fuck up for lack of support, and as far as I can see you deserve the support.
Therefore I feel that, if I can, I must provide support, because it's a good thing to a good guy.
Call it a weird quirk of an old man, if you like
Although I'm pretty sure that many others here agree with me...
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*raises a mug of A&W* I'll drink to that. (pardon the pun) |
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:18 am
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Chaos, dear, its okay. We all love you, (not carnally, duh) and we would tell you if you were annoying us. Trust me. We're all blunt. No one has this subtle type thing going on.
anyhoo, you've never irritated me or annoyed me or pissed me off. I've gotten strange looks because I keep laughing really loudly at your posts, but thats the worst.
And dear, you'lll never sound like a spineless nob. Whatever teh hell that is... |
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:36 am
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Chaos, dear, its okay. We all love you, (not carnally, duh) and we would tell you if you were annoying us. Trust me. We're all blunt. No one has this subtle type thing going on.
anyhoo, you've never irritated me or annoyed me or pissed me off. I've gotten strange looks because I keep laughing really loudly at your posts, but thats the worst.
And dear, you'lll never sound like a spineless nob. Whatever teh hell that is...
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That's sweet, Cass.
*hugz* |
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The bars are temples, but the pearls ain't free...
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:42 am
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*hugz back*
But holy shit. Sweet? |
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:44 am
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*hugz back*
But holy shit. Sweet?
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*looks around nervously*
Uh... wrong word? |
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Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:48 am
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*huggles/snuggles teh ratz*
Ifs awwlll right. I wuves chu. (in a friend-type way) |
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Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:02 am
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| Martin wrote: |
Chaos, I've seen WAY too many people royally fuck up for lack of support, and as far as I can see you deserve the support.
Therefore I feel that, if I can, I must provide support, because it's a good thing to a good guy.
Call it a weird quirk of an old man, if you like
Although I'm pretty sure that many others here agree with me...
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Here's to that! Its one of the driving reasons why I plan to become a chaplain. I've seen plenty who have the power to make a difference, have the authority to change something for the better, and as you appropriately stated Royally Fucked It Up!.
And if you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself.
*Gives Chaos a hardy pat on the back* Buddy. I'll try to support you as best I can too. I'm not on enough times in the week, but you can find me here, or on FA: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/labrnmystic/ (Seeing how Ronald does not, and would censor, any attempt of me leaving an email here) you can find me and others there as well. |
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Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:07 am
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Chaos, I've seen WAY too many people royally fuck up for lack of support, and as far as I can see you deserve the support.
Therefore I feel that, if I can, I must provide support, because it's a good thing to a good guy.
Call it a weird quirk of an old man, if you like
Although I'm pretty sure that many others here agree with me...
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Here's to that! Its one of the driving reasons why I plan to become a chaplain. I've seen plenty who have the power to make a difference, have the authority to change something for the better, and as you appropriately stated Royally Fucked It Up!.
And if you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself.
*Gives Chaos a hardy pat on the back* Buddy. I'll try to support you as best I can too. I'm not on enough times in the week, but you can find me here, or on FA: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/labrnmystic/ (Seeing how Ronald does not, and would censor, any attempt of me leaving an email here) you can find me and others there as well.
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Thank you, Lbrn, and that's as honest as I can get. There are not that many people I can talk to about these things.
Steve being one of the few.
The people here, however, have been just as helpful... if not more so. Trying to maintain a certain semblance of stability that people come to expect, while trying to heal a secret wound is... difficult at best.
I love you guys. |
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The bars are temples, but the pearls ain't free...
You'll find a god in every golden cloister,
And if you're lucky then the god's a she..." |
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Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:24 am
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Thank you, Lbrn, and that's as honest as I can get. There are not that many people I can talk to about these things.
Steve being one of the few.
The people here, however, have been just as helpful... if not more so. Trying to maintain a certain semblance of stability that people come to expect, while trying to heal a secret wound is... difficult at best.
I love you guys.
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The feeling is mutual, I can assure you of that. ^_^ *hug* |
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